Hydra CPA Network Reviews

By Brad Under CPA Network Reviews, Hydra Media

Hydra Network Reviews

(Note: Hydra Network was acquired by Adknowledge in early 2011. Practically speaking, nothing has changed except the name and the website, so my positive review still stands. FYI all links now go to the Adknowledge site.)

Hydra Network is one of my favorite CPA networks overall. They were the first CPA network I signed up with and they have been a consistent good performer. If you’re looking for a great network with low scrub rates Hydra CPA Network is for you. You can sign up here.

Overall
Payouts
Offers
Scrubbing
Tracking
Support
Payment
Interface
Reporting
Non-US Offers

PAYOUTS

I find that Hydra Network tends to have payouts at the higher end of the spectrum.

OFFERS

Hydra Media has a wide range of offers ranging from financial, health and beauty, education, entertainment, etc. Hydra has a lot of zip/email submit offers but I find that a large majority can only be promoted by email. As of today Hydra network has 390 offers.

SCRUBBING

Hydra seems to have one of the lowest scrub rates of all the networks in my experience. This is an extremely important point that some people don’t consider. You’ll often see networks promising high payouts but then you find out they scrub the hell out of the leads and so you end up making much less than you would have with a more honest network like Hydra.

AFFILIATE MANAGER / COMMUNICATION

My affiliate manager is generally proactive and sends out a daily report of the days/weeks best offers including EPC and conversion rates. You can also sometimes get the EPC and conversion rate data broken down by different traffic sources (ppc, email, display, etc) if you ask, but someone at Hydra told me that breakdown numbers probably are not very accurate.

INTERFACE

The interface is really the only issue that I have with Hydramedia.

Simply put, their campaign/offer search is pretty bad. They recently created a brand new interface, and although it’s much improved, it still leaves a lot to be desired.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve searched for offers by subject/keyword and nothing comes up. Then I’ll search for them by using the category pulldown and I get nothing there either. But if you look at the list of ALL campaigns, and scroll through all of the pages (it’s locked at only displaying 25 campaigns at a time so it takes a while) you’ll find offers that match your search. It’s usually too time consuming to look through that large list and so I’m sure that I’ve missed a lot of offers that Hydra had, but since I couldn’t find them I had to go with another network. I can only assume that whoever enters the offers into the database doesn’t do a thorough or accurate job.

Another complaint I have with the campaign search is trying to find non-USA offers. Simply put, you can’t do it. There is no country-based search function. All you can do is search the general campaign tab and scroll through page after page and hope that you find one in the country you’re looking for. But again, I don’t have time for that crap so I go to other networks. They really need to get this fixed!

REPORTING

Reporting is OK and generally gets the job done but it’d definitely not comprehensive. You can choose by date or date range on a calendar. You can also select by today, yesterday, week to date, last 7 days, this month, last month, and year to date.

The output of the search leaves a lot to be desired. It shows campaign id, campaign name, conversion rate, revenue and EPC. You can sort the list by any of these options but you can’t isolate specific campaigns, so you can only see all the results of all campaigns. All you can do is look down the list to find the campaign you’re looking for. When you’ve got a lot of campaigns this can be confusing.

This pain in the butt is amplified if you choose to show sub ids. You can choose to show all subids or only the ones which converted. That’s fine. But again, if you want to get subids for specific campaigns you cant. You have to sort through a list of hundreds or thousands of lines to find what you want.

Luckily you can download a CSV of these reports. This allows you to cut and paste certain campaigns or subids manually, but it would sure be nice if you could just get your data directly from the interface.

PAYMENTS

Hydra Network does net 15 payouts. You can get paid by check or ACH (direct deposit), wire ($10 fee), paypal for those in the US. Non-US affiliates can get paid via paypal or wire ($20 fee). Those in Canada can also choose to receive a check.

NON-US OFFERS

Really difficult to tell. (See my comments above about their interface.) I know Hydra has some international offers but it’s really too difficult if not impossible to know for sure!

  • UK – ?
  • Canada – ?
  • Australia – ?
  • Germany – ?
  • Kyrgyzstan – ?

I can’t tell if HydraMedia passes the Kyrgyzstan test or not.

PROS

  • Good payouts
  • Low scrub rate
  • Allow a variety of traffic sources
  • Net 15 payments
  • Direct deposit
  • Lots of offers
  • Good communication
  • Rewards program
  • Allow incentive traffic
  • Allow pre-pop

CONS

  • Offer search is cumbersome and often inaccurate
  • Limited conversion/payment reporting
  • Hydra Media is VERY selective of who they let in their network. If you haven’t been an affiliate for over one year and you’re not making at least $10k/month, they don’t want you.

OTHER COMMENTS

In my testing, Hydra CPA Network has consistently higher conversion rates overall when compared to many other networks. Several times I’ve split tested and compared the exact same offer from HydraNetworks with an offer from another network and almost every time my conversion rate / EPC has been higher with Hydramedia.

If Hydra would get their search and reporting interfaces fixed and/or upgraded they’d be great all around in my opinion.

But other than than that, like I said, Hydra Network is one of my top favorite CPA affiliate networks. I advise anyone interested in CPA marketing to sign up with Hydra Media. Their combination of high payouts, low scrub rates and good converting offers is hard to beat.

6 Comments Add yours

  1. Chris
    September 3, 2010
    9:31 am

    Hi, I am new to all of this. I tried some affiliate junk through FB and PoF, with no luck at all. I came to your site when I was researching ‘CPA instruments’. For a beginner, would you suggest starting with Hydra or something like CPA Inst? Anything else? I really don’t understand everything, but am looking for just a little income supplimentation right now. Thanks!

  2. Brad
    September 3, 2010
    5:33 pm

    Hi Chris,
    In my experience, FB and POF are hard nuts to crack. You can’t go at the niches straightaway, you have to use some creative thinking to reach the potential targets.

    Plus POF is CPM pricing which means you’ve really got to test a lot and get some high CTR ads to make it work.

    FB works similar in that way. Even if you’re doing CPC pricing (which I recommend) you still have to have a great CTR (generally over 0.6% or so) to get the cost per click down and also so FB will keep showing your ads. They’ll stop showing the ads if the CTR drops. I wouldn’t use CPM pricing with FB anymore since they changed the way the show the ads a few months ago.

    If you want to run FB I’d try to run non-US traffic. It’s a lot cheaper and less competitive.

    I’ve had the most success with yahoo PPC lately but since bing is taking them over we’ll have to see how that plays out in the future.

    Overall, hydra has always been a great network for me. Especially since they got the new interface a couple of months ago and you can now add your pixels manually. (although they don’t always work and sometimes you have to have your aff mgr do it.)

    Hope that helps you out!
    Good luck!

  3. krishna
    March 23, 2011
    5:07 am

    Foremost, you have made Great site and more importantly its seems honest and trustworthy.

    What you could also do is provide some guide to get accepted in the CPA networks.

    I have been rejected by most networks and I am sure fellow IM beginners would like to know how to get accepted WITHOUT a website or even a email list

  4. Brad
    April 7, 2011
    10:34 pm

    Hey Krishna,

    If you’re outside of the US or Canada, then it can be pretty tough to get accepted to a network. Most networks will accept people from the UK, AU, NZ, and much of Europe, but outside of those areas it can be pretty tough to get accepted.

    It’s because of the high amount of the fraud that the networks have found in other countries. Sorry, that’s just the way it is.

    If you’re from outside of these countries, you MIGHT have some luck if you meet face to face with some companies at an event like ADTECH, ASW, ASE, etc. If they can see that you’re a real human being and not some “fake account” that might get you in.

    If you are in the US, EU, UK, AU, NZ, or CA and still are getting rejected then my best advice to you is to meet some affiliate managers at the affiliate events like I mentioned above, or if that’s totally out of the question, then call up the networks on the phone and talk to them.

    Make it seem like you know what you’re doing and are making a lot of money on some other networks. If you come off like a newbie then they probably won’t want to deal with you. But if you act like a player who’s already making money, and who wants to spread some of it to their network then you’ll have a pretty chance of getting in.

    If you know anyone online or in person who can give you a recommendation to a CPA network that should help a lot too. Talk to that person’s affiliate manager and you’ll probably get in.

    It’s all about relationships in this biz. Get in tight with an affiliate manager and they will give you all sorts of golden information. But first you have to get in a network of course. If you follow what I just told you then you should be OK.

    But if you’re not in one of the main English-speaking countries or Western Europe, then it can be tough. My advice to you then would be to try working with Clickbank. I think they’ll accept pretty much anyone from all but a few really high fraud countries.

    Good luck with it and let me know how it works out for you!

    Best,
    Brad

  5. susan
    February 3, 2012
    7:17 am

    Just wanted to let you know that the panthera network affiliate program are scammers and won’t pay you. I worked for them for a long time and they owe me a big amount of money and refuse to pay it. BEWARE. I thought you guys may want to know this if you have them listed on your site. MAXBOUNTY, NEVERBLUE AND MYSAVINGS ARE ALSO SCAMMERS.AND CAN’T BE TRUSTED.

  6. Brad
    February 3, 2012
    12:33 pm

    Hi Susan,
    Thanks for the info on panthera network. Can you elaborate on what happened and why they didn’t pay you?

    I’ll have to disagree with you about maxbounty and neverblue though…they’re not scammers.

    If your leads were not showing up in the interface then it’s probably an issue with your tracking setup. If you think you sent more leads than you were credited with, then the advertisers (NOT the CPA network) may be shaving you–but shaving is a part of the industry like it or not. If that’s the case then just move on to a different offer.

    If the leads show up in the interface then you’re gonna get paid. If they didn’t pay you there is probably a legitimate reason. Maybe you were sending bad/fake traffic or doing something against their TOS? They should tell you if you ask them. If you read the terms of some offers they have the right to back out commissions if they turn out to be duplicates, but that’s disclosed up front.

    Please elaborate on what the REAL reasons were for you not getting paid. I’d bet that it’s not “scamming”. I’ll bet that it’s one of the issues I mentioned above, but please let us know the details.

    Thanks!

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